Hit and run victim Sandra Loepp

Oh yes that's the cop on the case! The one who was at the press conference. This is fucked up.

Let's see if this board gets shut down...

Wow! Who paid for this plastic surgery?! And open relationship as in.....swingers?

I would assume her husband pay for the plastic surgery! Not sure about swingers, but at one time their face book did state open relationship. It is locked up now. It was awhile ago is was on there. Not sure what exactly that was suppose to mean? This whole thing is crazy there seem to be so many twist.....

www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/michael-magnoli-michigan-c363901.html

i read it as michael magnoli being the builder. found the name of karen st. clair being the director of events, but do not know who the actual owner or owners are... can someone identify the owners?

regardless, the builder, who does not appear to be a great one from the complaints posted, evidently supports the sheriff...

someone who lives in the area, can you speak to the politics there? is it a good ole boy enviornment?

ANOTHER TOPIC... i agree with squalala regarding the plastic surgery. if she did have it done, it turned out well. if the other housewives had it done, they probably envied her physician's talent. i don't buy that women LOVE and ADORE one another as much as these women have claimed. appears they come from a very materialistic place. i could see them being jealous of S's physical beauty.

<<<<HUH... but I will respond for this hubby>>>>>

I find that hard to believe that you thought couples go home with couple.

<<<<Why the hell wouldn't they? You don't?? Telling.>>>

If her and her husband were fighting why on earth would they go home as a couple?

<<<Who knew an issue would be such an issue IF EVEN IT WAS AN ISSUE? No argument occurred in the bar as far as most/all/many knew.... V DID NOT run her down. There is video to prove this.>>>>>

Secondly, if "V" didn't have a car who drove them there? They should have drove them home! Everyone knew v didn't have a car!

<<<There ya go! V didn't have a car. And, neither V, A or B drove her there or thought they had to get her home! You know damn well they would have if they thought they needed to!! When people know that a woman leaves with her husband are they supposed to sneak into the couples bedroom and make sure they are cuddling before going home themselves? As far as everyone knew, S left with V. V thought S walked back up the stairs - which she DID - but she never re-entered the bar to go to the group. How was the group to know she wasn't still with V? Certainly horrific that all 22 people didn't follow them outside and eaves drop on their personal conversation. Surely all wish they were that nosey now! Seriously... but, is that what you do to your friends? Eaves drop?>>>>

You knew they were fighting in the parking lot it would be a friends responsibility to check to see if she was ok or wanted to go home because she was embarrassed!

<<FAlSE!!!!!! It is not true that everyone knew they were fighting (if that was even the case from their perspective)>>>> >

The argument does have a huge impact in this case.
1. She lost her life.
<<< so keep your eye on the ball and help find the person that ran her down!>>>>

2. That was the reason she was upset and supposedly left.

<<<?? Not all/many/any knew there was any issue.>>>

3. The agrumement obviously involved someone else. The person her husband was jealous of! Was he involved in the AGRUement?

<<don't know>>>>

4. Spouses past temper and current temper, jealous, and drinking make for a very bad combination.

<<I'm sure you are perfect. So happy for you!>>>

5. Did the AGRUement get physically?

<<wasn't there to have any type of response to this>>>

6. Why did she feel she had to walk?

<<that is the million dollar question>>

7. Leaving her purse and cell phone behind tells me she had every intention of coming back!

<<sort of agree, but she had 2 purses. She may have thought her phone was in her clutch purse.?? It is terribly unfortunate that the friends there knew she had "a purse" and didn't think about the "second purse".?? Total speculation. Again, neither A or B had this second purse.>>

8. What happened that she didn't return us what we want to know. That would be objective reasoning.

<<wish she had, obviously!! Wish we had eaves dropped.>>

9. Her friends are being subjective because they are friends and trust one another and their emotions are too involved to question and think logically. Objective not subjective is the problem.

<<HUH? Just keep helping and working against those trying to help.>>>