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Post by whatmatters on Jan 13, 2013 19:49:38 GMT -5
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thank you for sharing what you know. it was stated several times throughout previous thread that A had words with S in parking lot, trying to get her to get in A's car. some comments sounded like someone trying to show how A tried to help S, but now it sounds like that has changed. did this happen? is it on video tape?
Facts reply: I've never heard this aside from on the blog. I do not think it is true.
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Post by whatmatters on Jan 13, 2013 19:51:06 GMT -5
Confirms Reply: the purse it was left on one of the tables (or chair backs) that were being used (there were several tables). There were coats on chairs and chair backs and a stray purse was not immediately noticed. One couple noticed it, knew it belonged to S and took it home because they knew she had left with V 30 min before and assumed she just forgot it. If LE's TOD is correct then S had passed away 15 min before anyone even noticed that she had left her purse
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Post by whatmatters on Jan 13, 2013 20:00:33 GMT -5
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It wasn't A or B that took the purse. The couple that took it didn't need to riffle through the purse. They already knew it was S's. why would they go through it?
Sylvester Wrote:
Where was Sandra's iPhone? Was it in the big purse, clutch purse or on the table? Who grabbed it? What purse was found in the road/by Sandra and which purse was left at the restaurant? Whichever one was found at the scene obviously had no identification of any sort inside it.
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Post by questionS on Jan 13, 2013 20:07:33 GMT -5
curious, how are you getting information from police when LE has not made any public statements?
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Post by Squalala on Jan 13, 2013 23:07:48 GMT -5
questionS wrote: <quoted text> why would the friend not come to pick them up? did V start walking and call to cancel thinking S would get home with friends. S, too upset to go back, starts to follow on foot? proof V walked home is necessary. otherwise he could have been picked up, circled round to collect his wife and found her walking on side of road. that would make friend's access to vehicle important as well. S never comes home. V never calls around trying to find her? THAT IS HINKY. Don't know. Maybe the friend never got the text, maybe they weren't in the area to be able to pick up. Maybe there was no reply therefore V walked. No idea... Just me speculating. Police told me they know he walked home. Again, speculation, I assume they know from cameras at area businesses. If they have HIM on area business cameras why not her? |
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Post by whatmatters on Jan 14, 2013 4:56:54 GMT -5
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Interested | 1 hr ago
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Could be a good thing. Who knows, maybe there is something on here that helps them too! I am sure they are checking here and every angle they can for insight and help! People in general in the area are only thinking 2 things...a stranger that freaked out or the husband. It's seems pretty normal to think it was him, because of all the stuff going on at their Santino's gathering, but at the same time, if it was on purpose, I question the person for just leaving her where everyone or anyone could see...that would indicate a stranger. Dirty laundry comes up in many cases, so I still really don't know what to believe yet. They will figure it out and we will find out.
Well, Vern did call her trailer trash! As beautiful as she was, wouldn't it maks sense that he would WANT to leave her in the tp lot symbolizing the "trailer trash" he called her.
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Post by whatmatters on Jan 14, 2013 4:58:05 GMT -5
curious, how are you getting information from police when LE has not made any public statements? From the responses received on the topic forum. |
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Post by whatmatters on Jan 14, 2013 5:00:21 GMT -5
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Sagittarius | 3 hrs ago
Tried to google "person trapped under moving vehicle"...nothing came up for that.
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Post by One of Sandras sisters on Jan 14, 2013 8:31:02 GMT -5
We as Sandra's family respect that many of you want to help solve this case and would like to have an open discussion on these blogs, however along with open discussion some bring in personal bashing, speculation, and at times pure lies. We as the family still have many questions ourselves. We are working closely with LE and can not always answer your questions, remember....this is still an ongoing investigation. Our FB page was created to help spread the word of the crime to reach as many people as possible in the hopes that someone is holding onto information, we encourage anyone with helpful information to share it with crime stoppers (1-800-speak-up)
We have seen this blog on topix and saw it get well out of control bringing personal information about family members, some of which are still minors into the discussion. We know that this is not the fault of all participating. Our job as parents to all the nieces and nephews and the aunt's of Sandra's children is to protect them. Weather there is truth or not to the many accusations about Sandra, Vernon, or others mentioned we need to protect these children. All of our children have access to the Justice for Sandra Loepp FB Page. While we welcome you to join us on there for respectful communication, we ask you to please not post links to these blogs. We hope you understand,Thank you.
I have not been spending my time reading these lately and am only aware of this one because it was posted on our fb wall, so please don't ask me a bunch of questions and expect a reply.
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Post by Does it matter anyway on Jan 14, 2013 9:29:32 GMT -5
Hmm yeah I've seen that before and just thought it wasn't as flattering of a pic, like less makeup or something. How old is the short hair pic? I am not sure. But, she was open about the boob job. But look at her check structure and face compare the two. Definitely plastic surgery That photo was just taken in September, it was her son's first day of school. Just not a great picture. |
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Post by McNugget on Jan 14, 2013 12:12:10 GMT -5
I am not sure. But, she was open about the boob job. But look at her check structure and face compare the two. Definitely plastic surgery That photo was just taken in September, it was her son's first day of school. Just not a great picture. So she had hair extensions |
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Post by McNugget on Jan 14, 2013 12:13:59 GMT -5
We as Sandra's family respect that many of you want to help solve this case and would like to have an open discussion on these blogs, however along with open discussion some bring in personal bashing, speculation, and at times pure lies. We as the family still have many questions ourselves. We are working closely with LE and can not always answer your questions, remember....this is still an ongoing investigation. Our FB page was created to help spread the word of the crime to reach as many people as possible in the hopes that someone is holding onto information, we encourage anyone with helpful information to share it with crime stoppers (1-800-speak-up) We have seen this blog on topix and saw it get well out of control bringing personal information about family members, some of which are still minors into the discussion. We know that this is not the fault of all participating. Our job as parents to all the nieces and nephews and the aunt's of Sandra's children is to protect them. Weather there is truth or not to the many accusations about Sandra, Vernon, or others mentioned we need to protect these children. All of our children have access to the Justice for Sandra Loepp FB Page. While we welcome you to join us on there for respectful communication, we ask you to please not post links to these blogs. We hope you understand,Thank you. I have not been spending my time reading these lately and am only aware of this one because it was posted on our fb wall, so please don't ask me a bunch of questions and expect a reply. Completely understand your position, and hopefully when this is solved as questions are answered we can all discuss this with you and the rest of your family. Until then, I will continue attending fundraisers and getting the word out anyway I can. However I don't think I will be at the spaghetti fundraiser . |
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Post by Squalala on Jan 15, 2013 7:41:25 GMT -5
Ok well I think I know what happened. S and V fighting. This is a fact. V leaves on foot. S tries to re enter bar and inexplicably doesn't actually re-enter, thus leaving behind things we have said all along there's no way a woman would leave behind. Only one reason for that possible. She was DENIED re-entry. This would explain the 10 mins at the top of the stairs. She was trying to get back in and they refused her. If my hunch is right her family should sue the shit out of them. Her legacy should be a change to that policy. This would explain why S didn't call or txt someone for a ride. Poor girl  she felt her only option was to strike out for home on foot and sadly if she had only chosen the path she would have made it. Whoever the bouncer is I hope he is losing a lot of sleep over this. He's as big a piece of shit as her husband. |
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Post by McNugget on Jan 15, 2013 14:10:23 GMT -5
Ok well I think I know what happened. S and V fighting. This is a fact. V leaves on foot. S tries to re enter bar and inexplicably doesn't actually re-enter, thus leaving behind things we have said all along there's no way a woman would leave behind. Only one reason for that possible. She was DENIED re-entry. This would explain the 10 mins at the top of the stairs. She was trying to get back in and they refused her. If my hunch is right her family should sue the shit out of them. Her legacy should be a change to that policy. This would explain why S didn't call or txt someone for a ride. Poor girl she felt her only option was to strike out for home on foot and sadly if she had only chosen the path she would have made it. Whoever the bouncer is I hope he is losing a lot of sleep over this. He's as big a piece of shit as her husband. Perhaps S and V caused a scene inside the bar and were told they couldn't come back in because of that? Perhaps V was about to get in a fist fight with whoever he thought his wife was flirting with? Also, if video shows her going up the stairs to go back into Santino's, why doesn't it show what she did for 10 minutes? There's not a camera on the entry door? I've been to Santinos and I can't see them having a camera downstairs but not on the actual entry into the bar upstairs??? |
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Post by sylvester on Jan 15, 2013 14:13:23 GMT -5
We as Sandra's family respect that many of you want to help solve this case and would like to have an open discussion on these blogs, however along with open discussion some bring in personal bashing, speculation, and at times pure lies. We as the family still have many questions ourselves. We are working closely with LE and can not always answer your questions, remember....this is still an ongoing investigation. Our FB page was created to help spread the word of the crime to reach as many people as possible in the hopes that someone is holding onto information, we encourage anyone with helpful information to share it with crime stoppers (1-800-speak-up) We have seen this blog on topix and saw it get well out of control bringing personal information about family members, some of which are still minors into the discussion. We know that this is not the fault of all participating. Our job as parents to all the nieces and nephews and the aunt's of Sandra's children is to protect them. Weather there is truth or not to the many accusations about Sandra, Vernon, or others mentioned we need to protect these children. All of our children have access to the Justice for Sandra Loepp FB Page. While we welcome you to join us on there for respectful communication, we ask you to please not post links to these blogs. We hope you understand,Thank you. I have not been spending my time reading these lately and am only aware of this one because it was posted on our fb wall, so please don't ask me a bunch of questions and expect a reply. Hello there, I was not trying to be disrespectful of you or her children by posting the link on the facebook wall. I know the topix board got a little out of hand but I thought this board here showed some healthy discussion about the case and wanted anyone who is supporting the cause to be able to come here to discuss. I'm sorry if doing that upset anyone, especially Sandra's children. Never my intention. |
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she felt her only option was to strike out for home on foot and sadly if she had only chosen the path she would have made it. Whoever the bouncer is I hope he is losing a lot of sleep over this. He's as big a piece of shit as her husband.